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		<title>Billable Hours And The Labor Theory Of Value</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>In 1865, Karl Marx postulated that the value of any commodity is determined by the amount of labor that was required to produce that commodity. Few, if any, economic theories have proven to be more completely wrong. As Ronald Baker points out in his book Professional’s Guide to Value Pricing, if “the labor theory of [&#8230;]</p>
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									<p dir="auto">In 1865, Karl Marx postulated that the value of any commodity is determined by the amount of labor that was required to produce that commodity. Few, if any, economic theories have proven to be more completely wrong. As Ronald Baker points out in his book <u>Professional’s Guide to Value Pricing</u>, if “the labor theory of value was correct, a diamond found in a mine would be of no greater value than a rock found right next to it, since each took an equal amount of ‘billable hours’ to locate.”</p><p dir="auto">Marx himself recognized one of the great flaws in his theory when he wrote that “the lazier a man, or the clumsier a man, the more valuable his commodity because of the greater the time of labour required for finishing the commodity.” Marx tried — unsuccessfully — to circumvent his own theory because of this flaw.</p><p dir="ltr">As a consumer of legal (or any other professional) services you are almost certainly paying for those services on the basis of an agreed hourly rate times the number of hours required to provide that service. The basis for this standard is that it is easily measured and presumably the purchaser can compare one service provider’s cost to another by comparing the hourly rate. For the same reasons that Marx’s labor theory of value fails in commodity valuation, the hourly billing system for the valuation of legal services fails. You are not paying for value — or a price based upon value. You are paying for the professional’s time. The problem is exarcerbated by the fact that the professional’s hourly rate may or may not have any correlation to the value provided.</p><p dir="ltr">Undoubtedly, the more professional time required to perform a service the higher the cost to the professional or her firm. This cost is relevant to our discussion but it is not a measure of value. The major relevance of cost based upon billable hours is that virtually all legal services are provided on that basis so it provides a comparison. For instance, I may prefer an iPhone to an Android phone because of some perceived value. However, if I can purchase almost the same value for significantly less cost I may decide the value enhancement is not worth the additional cost and buy an Android.</p><p dir="ltr">Very few law firms offer value-based fees. In fact, we know of no North Carolina firms offering litigation services on this basis other than our firm. Firms that offer flat fees often simply estimate what their fees would be on an hourly basis and build in a premium for guaranteeing the cost. Although the arrangement may provide a flat or fixed fee, it is not value-based and provides none of the other advantages we offer in value pricing.  The terms fixed or flat fee and value-based pricing are not synonymous.</p><p dir="ltr">Determining value of litigation services is not subject to simple calculation or even complex algorithms. The value of the claim is certainly important but the value of defending a $1MM claim brought against a small business is likely to have a different value than the same claim brought against a Fortune 100 company. Similarly, the value of defending a $1MM claim has a different value than prosecuting a $1MM claim for the same company.  So how do we determine the value of an engagement?  The short answer is that like any other commercial transaction, the seller does not determine the value, the buyer does.  My next post in this series will discuss the process we use to help clients determine value but the process will not be unfamiliar: what is the benefit purchased, what do alternatives cost to achieve this benefit, etc.</p>								</div>
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		<div class="saboxplugin-wrap" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person" itemscope itemprop="author"><div class="saboxplugin-tab"><div class="saboxplugin-gravatar"><img alt='Bob Meynardie' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/1efa0d5f9bd3547d3c1af4491c4fb3b2?s=100&#038;d=mm&#038;r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/1efa0d5f9bd3547d3c1af4491c4fb3b2?s=200&#038;d=mm&#038;r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-100 photo' height='100' width='100' itemprop="image"/></div><div class="saboxplugin-authorname"><a href="https://nc-businesslawyer.com/author/bobmeynardie" class="vcard author" rel="author"><span class="fn">Bob Meynardie</span></a></div><div class="saboxplugin-desc"><div itemprop="description"></div></div><div class="clearfix"></div></div></div><p>The post <a href="https://nc-businesslawyer.com/billable-hours-and-the-labor-theory-of-value">Billable Hours And The Labor Theory Of Value</a> appeared first on <a href="https://nc-businesslawyer.com">NC Business Lawyer</a>.</p>
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		<title>UK Proposal For Fixed Litigation Fees</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Meynardie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 00:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Here is an interesting lecture suggesting that legal fees&#160;in the U.K. be fixed for small to medium-sized disputes.&#160; Download the lecture paper here.&#160;&#160; Establishing set prices across the board for various stages of litigation has numerous obvious problems but hiring a lawyer for her skill instead of price shopping and making law firm profitability a [&#8230;]</p>
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									<p>Here is an interesting lecture suggesting that legal fees in the U.K. be fixed for small to medium-sized disputes.  <a href="http://nc-businesslawyer.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/fixedcostslecture-1.pdf">Download the lecture paper here.</a>   Establishing set prices across the board for various stages of litigation has numerous obvious problems but hiring a lawyer for her skill instead of price shopping and making law firm profitability a function of efficiency and effectiveness instead of the time taken to complete a task are obvious advantages of the proposal.</p><p>In the paper, Lord Justice Jackson argues that &#8220;High litigation costs inhibit access to justice. They are a problem not only for individual litigants, but also for public justice generally. If people cannot afford to use the courts, they may go elsewhere with possibly dubious results. If costs prevent access to justice, this undermines the rule of law.&#8221;</p><p>He goes on to blame hourly rates and cost shifting as the main culprits:  &#8220;The genesis of the problem. The present level of costs and complexity of civil litigation has evolved over time under the influence of costs shifting and the system of ‘hourly rate’ remuneration. Remuneration on a time basis rewards inefficiency. Unrestrained costs shifting drives parties to leave no stone unturned: the more costs mount up, the more determined each party becomes to ensure that the other party pays them.&#8221;</p><p>Although we do not have cost shifting to blame, hourly billing and the potential inefficiencies certainly are prevalent here.</p>								</div>
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		<div class="saboxplugin-wrap" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person" itemscope itemprop="author"><div class="saboxplugin-tab"><div class="saboxplugin-gravatar"><img alt='Bob Meynardie' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/1efa0d5f9bd3547d3c1af4491c4fb3b2?s=100&#038;d=mm&#038;r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/1efa0d5f9bd3547d3c1af4491c4fb3b2?s=200&#038;d=mm&#038;r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-100 photo' height='100' width='100' itemprop="image"/></div><div class="saboxplugin-authorname"><a href="https://nc-businesslawyer.com/author/bobmeynardie" class="vcard author" rel="author"><span class="fn">Bob Meynardie</span></a></div><div class="saboxplugin-desc"><div itemprop="description"></div></div><div class="clearfix"></div></div></div><p>The post <a href="https://nc-businesslawyer.com/uk-proposal-for-fixed-litigation-fees">UK Proposal For Fixed Litigation Fees</a> appeared first on <a href="https://nc-businesslawyer.com">NC Business Lawyer</a>.</p>
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		<title>Value-Based Legal Fees</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Meynardie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2016 00:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>At Meynardie &#38; Nanney, we price our services in a variety of ways but encourage our clients to consider the benefits of fixed fee value based billing.  Since the mid-1970s, legal services have been typically priced in one of two ways: fees based upon the time required to complete a task (the &#8220;billable hour&#8221;); or [&#8230;]</p>
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									<p><strong>At Meynardie &amp; Nanney, we price our services in a variety of ways but encourage our clients to consider the benefits of fixed fee value based billing.</strong>  Since the mid-1970s, legal services have been typically priced in one of two ways:</p><ol><li>fees based upon the time required to complete a task (the &#8220;billable hour&#8221;); or</li><li>fees based upon a percentage of recovery (&#8220;contingency&#8221;).</li></ol><p>As contingency fees are difficult or impossible to implement in most cases, legal services consumers more often than not pay by the hour.<u></u><u></u></p><p>Although the billable hour is now not only the norm but sacrosanct to most practice areas, it has not always been the way services were priced. Wide acceptance of the billable hour is less than fifty years old. For a good, brief history of the billable hour, see Ronda Muir’s post: <a title="Ronda Muir's Article: A Short History of the Billable Hour and the Consequences of its Tyranny." href="http://www.lawpeopleblog.com/2007/06/a-short-history-of-the-billable-hour-and-the-consequences-of-its-tyranny/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">A Short History of the Billable Hour and the Consequences of its Tyranny</a>. Now that&#8217;s a title!</p><p><strong>As long as the billable hour has been the norm it has been universally despised by both service providers and by their clients.</strong> For providers, hatred comes from the need to measure our days in six minute increments and the &#8220;loss&#8221; of revenue because not all time can be captured.  For clients, the problem is much more fundamental.  The amount of time a task takes to complete is rarely if ever a good measure of the value of that service and in many ways the providers self-interest is not aligned with the client&#8217;s.  To understand this we need to compare client interests with the contradictory economic interests of the provider in a time billing environment.</p><p>My clients uniformly tell me that they want:</p><ol><li> the best possible outcome;</li><li> lowest cost possible consistent with goal #1;</li><li> resolution as quickly as possible consistent with goals #1 and #2; and</li><li> predictable cost.</li></ol><p><strong><br />Working with an experienced and client-focused attorney, all four goals are achievable using time-based billing models but no one contends that this is the best way to achieve them. </strong> The billable hour is by definition, cost plus billing.  The longer it takes to accomplish the goal the higher the revenue to the law firm.  As such there is no built in incentive for the attorney or law firm to find the most effective or efficient means to the goal.<u></u><u></u></p><p>Patrick Lamb, in his insightful book &#8220;Alternative Fees for Litigators and their Clients,&#8221; illustrates this point with the hypothetical story of two associates, Bob and Mary, tasked to write the same brief.  Mary completes the brief <span class="aBn" tabindex="0" data-term="goog_145499137"><span class="aQJ">in 140 hours</span></span> but Bob takes 190 hours. Assuming that the quality of the hypothetical briefs is the same, Lamb points out that the cost of Bob&#8217;s inefficiency when billed by the hour is completely borne by the client. Lamb goes on to point out that in most firms, the cost to the firm is the same but the less efficient attorney is actually more profitable and would likely be rewarded for that inefficiency.<u></u><u></u></p><p>Clients with the buying power to do so are now demanding reform.  In 2008, the Association of Corporate Counsel issued its corporate challenge championing the realignment of relationships and promoting value-based fee arrangements and other tools, such as project management, process improvement, efficient use of technology and knowledge management tools, for the more efficient delivery of legal services. <a href="http://www.acc.com/valuechallenge" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Go here for more information</a>.<u></u><u></u></p><p><strong>At Meynardie &amp; Nanney, we are driven to help our clients reach their goals and believe that our business model should align our self-interest with the interests of our clients.</strong>  In coming weeks, this blog will explore what value based fees are, how they work, and why you should be demanding them from your service providers.</p>								</div>
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